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		<title>By: Jazz: A Museum Piece or a Living, Breathing Artform? It&#8217;s Up to Us!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jazz: A Museum Piece or a Living, Breathing Artform? It&#8217;s Up to Us!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] leads us to the inevitable art vs. entertainment argument which I&#8217;ve addressed previously here and here. I won&#8217;t retread that ground (feel free to read my previous posts if you&#8217;re [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] leads us to the inevitable art vs. entertainment argument which I&#8217;ve addressed previously here and here. I won&#8217;t retread that ground (feel free to read my previous posts if you&#8217;re [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Andrew,

Thanks for your comments! I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond to my posts. My hope with this blog is to get a dialog going and I&#039;m glad you&#039;re along for the ride.

You are right that it&#039;s not only the emotion that draws the casual listener in. There are many other factors. What&#039;s worked for me is engaging the audience. But it sounds like what works for you is keeping sight of melody, which is a great way to hook the listener in. They don&#039;t call &#039;em &quot;hooks&quot; for nothin&#039;! What I&#039;ve heard of your music could certainly be challenging to the casual listener, but even before your post I was struck with your use of hooks and melodies. Yours are the kind of songs that leave you with something to sing, even after one listen! That&#039;s no small feat. Especially since sometimes you have counter-melodies going too. 

One other thing I think you have going for you is that your band(s) are different. The instrumentation, the compositions, and I sense your shows are all unique. But through it all you write and play beautiful lines with a sense of fun to them. As cerebral as your compositions may be, the performance of them is filled with life and, yes, emotion!

Keep the responses coming!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Andrew,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments! I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond to my posts. My hope with this blog is to get a dialog going and I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re along for the ride.</p>
<p>You are right that it&#8217;s not only the emotion that draws the casual listener in. There are many other factors. What&#8217;s worked for me is engaging the audience. But it sounds like what works for you is keeping sight of melody, which is a great way to hook the listener in. They don&#8217;t call &#8216;em &#8220;hooks&#8221; for nothin&#8217;! What I&#8217;ve heard of your music could certainly be challenging to the casual listener, but even before your post I was struck with your use of hooks and melodies. Yours are the kind of songs that leave you with something to sing, even after one listen! That&#8217;s no small feat. Especially since sometimes you have counter-melodies going too. </p>
<p>One other thing I think you have going for you is that your band(s) are different. The instrumentation, the compositions, and I sense your shows are all unique. But through it all you write and play beautiful lines with a sense of fun to them. As cerebral as your compositions may be, the performance of them is filled with life and, yes, emotion!</p>
<p>Keep the responses coming!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Durkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Durkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another really interesting post, Jason! Thanks!

I&#039;ve been obsessed with the question of the things that are possible with (and the things that make possible) a large audience for music that is ostensibly &quot;out&quot; or &quot;complex.&quot; I see this as a practical question: a large project like mine needs a big audience to be sustainable -- not to mention the fact that we play better in that context (as I&#039;m sure most people do)!

Is emotion really the key to that sort of crossover? It definitely plays a role, I agree. Then again, most jazz musicians will probably tell you they work hard to invest their performances with emotion. 

&quot;Hooting and hollering&quot; (by which I presume you also mean general &quot;physical interaction&quot; with a performance) is definitely part of it too -- and yet, to take two of the examples you gave (Miles and Coltrane) I&#039;m not aware of any footage of those guys doing that sort of thing. So is it the kind / intensity of emotion that comes through in their music that makes it work so well for the &quot;average&quot; or unschooled listener?

There is another element to this, I think, and I suspect it *does* have something to do with *what* you play (or, in my case, what I ask other people to play). To me, much of the fun of being a &quot;postmodern jazz composer&quot; (whatever that means) is to get as thorny as I can without simultaneously losing sight of my love for a pretty (or yes, even &quot;hook-y&quot;) melody, or a danceable beat, or a form that is succinct. This approach hasn&#039;t exactly brought us fame and fortune yet, but it has resulted in people interacting with us in a way that I don&#039;t often see at other &quot;jazz&quot; shows. So who knows...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another really interesting post, Jason! Thanks!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been obsessed with the question of the things that are possible with (and the things that make possible) a large audience for music that is ostensibly &#8220;out&#8221; or &#8220;complex.&#8221; I see this as a practical question: a large project like mine needs a big audience to be sustainable &#8212; not to mention the fact that we play better in that context (as I&#8217;m sure most people do)!</p>
<p>Is emotion really the key to that sort of crossover? It definitely plays a role, I agree. Then again, most jazz musicians will probably tell you they work hard to invest their performances with emotion. </p>
<p>&#8220;Hooting and hollering&#8221; (by which I presume you also mean general &#8220;physical interaction&#8221; with a performance) is definitely part of it too &#8212; and yet, to take two of the examples you gave (Miles and Coltrane) I&#8217;m not aware of any footage of those guys doing that sort of thing. So is it the kind / intensity of emotion that comes through in their music that makes it work so well for the &#8220;average&#8221; or unschooled listener?</p>
<p>There is another element to this, I think, and I suspect it *does* have something to do with *what* you play (or, in my case, what I ask other people to play). To me, much of the fun of being a &#8220;postmodern jazz composer&#8221; (whatever that means) is to get as thorny as I can without simultaneously losing sight of my love for a pretty (or yes, even &#8220;hook-y&#8221;) melody, or a danceable beat, or a form that is succinct. This approach hasn&#8217;t exactly brought us fame and fortune yet, but it has resulted in people interacting with us in a way that I don&#8217;t often see at other &#8220;jazz&#8221; shows. So who knows&#8230;</p>
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